What Underwater Camera Works With Humminbird
Motion sensor trail photographic camera for hummingbird photography?
is information technology possible or should I forget about it.
I don't spend enough time outdoors to go the hummingbirds used to my presence and then they take off every time I even barely move when they're effectually.
Got the idea to try a motion sensor trail cam instead of bothering with setting up a dslr on a tripod with my 300mm lens.
Would capeesh any input you care to share.
Isabel
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dzba • Senior Fellow member • Posts: 1,651
Re: Motion sensor trail camera for hummingbird photography?
Isabel Cutler wrote:
is information technology possible or should I forget about it.
I can say results I've seen using remote controlled cameras aren't to my liking. Yes, some pro photographers use elaborate 3 or more flashes and remote control setups, and a remote trigger, but those aren't what I figure either you, (and myself) are speaking of.
What are your goals for hummingbird images ? Is it enough to capture them sitting on the feeder while feeding ? They motion and so quickly, and alter directions then fast, that I'd bet against it.
Hummingbirds' wingbeats tin can vary from lx-200 wingbeats, per second. The ones I see are a challenge for me to rails with the camera. It's difficult to capture them in a pose facing the camera, or wings pleasing to my eyes.
I don't spend enough time outdoors to get the hummingbirds used to my presence so they take off every fourth dimension I even barely move when they're around.
I've observed that if I sit in a chair with picayune move that if they're in the area, within xv min or ofttimes, less time, kickoff visiting the feeder. Sometimes they will fizz me while I'thousand setting up the feeder, and feed out of it while I'thou property it. Guess they're pretty hungry for that.
I shoot hummers exclusvely in national forest or national park areas. It's against the park rules to apply a feeder inside their boundaries. Recently I've found a much better way than using feeders in the national park.
I've intended to post a thread on my style of hummingbird photography for a while, but with wildflower season at summit, hummingbirds, and now Moose, I'k finding my intentions and fourth dimension to mail service is impacted.
For now, here'south an example of what I've captured exterior of the national park.
ss 1/360, f-8, ISO 400, EC minus .5, fl 250 mm feeder was $1 at Wally mart, green matter on feeder I found at Abode Depot @ ii in a bundle for $.lx, to limit feeding to ane port.
Got the thought to try a motion sensor trail cam instead of bothering with setting upward a dslr on a tripod with my 300mm lens.
Would appreciate any input you lot care to share.
Isabel
Your photographic camera'due south and lens used to focus rapidly volition exist large factors in this effort.
Skillful luck with your efforts,
Mike
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Re: Thank you for sharing your experiences and knowledge....
dzba wrote:
Isabel Cutler wrote:
is it possible or should I forget about it.
I can say results I've seen using remote controlled cameras aren't to my liking. Aye, some pro photographers utilize elaborate iii or more flashes and remote control setups, and a remote trigger, but those aren't what I figure either y'all, (and myself) are speaking of.
What are your goals for hummingbird images ? Is it enough to capture them sitting on the feeder while feeding ? They move and then quickly, and modify directions then fast, that I'd bet confronting it.
Hummingbirds' wingbeats can vary from sixty-200 wingbeats, per 2nd. The ones I see are a claiming for me to track with the camera. It's hard to capture them in a pose facing the photographic camera, or wings pleasing to my optics.
I don't spend enough time outdoors to get the hummingbirds used to my presence so they take off every time I even barely motion when they're around.
I've observed that if I sit in a chair with little movement that if they're in the surface area, within xv min or often, less fourth dimension, start visiting the feeder. Sometimes they will buzz me while I'g setting upwardly the feeder, and feed out of information technology while I'thousand holding it. Estimate they're pretty hungry for that.
I shoot hummers exclusvely in national wood or national park areas. It's against the park rules to employ a feeder inside their boundaries. Recently I've found a much meliorate manner than using feeders in the national park.
I've intended to post a thread on my mode of hummingbird photography for a while, just with wildflower season at peak, hummingbirds, and at present Moose, I'm finding my intentions and fourth dimension to mail service is impacted.
For at present, here's an example of what I've captured outside of the national park.
ss 1/360, f-eight, ISO 400, EC minus .5, fl 250 mm feeder was $i at Wally mart, green thing on feeder I found at Home Depot @ ii in a package for $.threescore, to limit feeding to 1 port.
Got the idea to effort a motion sensor trail cam instead of bothering with setting upward a dslr on a tripod with my 300mm lens.
Would appreciate whatsoever input you care to share.
Isabel
On rare occasions (very rare occasions) I've captured reasonable hummer shots through my double paned kitchen windows - may once exterior!
I simply want to increment my odds of success and suspect the only way to exercise that is spend more than time outside!
Biggest problem is an intrusive leafy groundwork from trees behind my feeder, and at that place'south not much I can do about that. If I had plain blue sky things would exist easier. I've shot with many dissimilar cameras with best results comes from a Canon 7D and 300 f/4L IS lens.
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Your photographic camera's and lens used to focus speedily will be large factors in this effort.
Proficient luck with your efforts,
Mike
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drj3 • Forum Pro • Posts: 12,358
Re: Movement sensor trail camera for hummingbird photography?
I seriously dubiousness that y'all would succeed in getting any expert images with a sensor tripping the shutter.
I assume you are using the GX7 with a 300mm lens. The depth of field volition be extremely shallow (probably less one inch), and then the focus accuracy is disquisitional.
How would you control what the camera focused on when the sensor was tripped.
I prefer photographing them feeding from flowers and I observe they are a little more than tolerant of movement than they are at the feeder. I besides notice the female hummingbirds a little less probable to fly away. If you lot sit down in a chair for a little while, they will tend to ignore you. I use unmarried centre spot to ensure focus on the bird and not the flowers.
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Went out on the deck with my e-pl5 and 35-100 lens and "hid" behind a sunflower stalk.
This hummer accepted me and the shutter sounds.
Unfortunately, information technology was pretty dark on the deck and I had to work at ISO 2500 and the pictures were very noisy.
I truly recall if I spend merely a piffling more time exterior I might go some improve shots.
I didn't use the 100-300 because the discontinuity would be mode besides small when zoomed.
Posting this as a small epitome because larger the noise Actually shows - did use some noise reduction - more on the background.
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drj3 • Forum Pro • Posts: 12,358
Re: I'thousand making progress!
Isabel Cutler wrote:
Went out on the deck with my eastward-pl5 and 35-100 lens and "hid" behind a sunflower stalk.
This hummer accepted me and the shutter sounds.
Unfortunately, it was pretty dark on the deck and I had to piece of work at ISO 2500 and the pictures were very noisy.
I truly recollect if I spend merely a little more time exterior I might get some amend shots.
I didn't use the 100-300 because the aperture would be mode as well minor when zoomed.
Posting this as a modest image because larger the racket REALLY shows - did use some noise reduction - more on the groundwork.
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Isabel
They really do adjust adequately rapidly. When I spend enough fourth dimension outdoors in the summer, they will start to ignore me and sometimes buzz within a human foot or 2 of my head to check me out.
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Re: I'm making progress!
Seem to think that they come out to investigate me when I appear on the deck. They fizz around me every bit if to intimidate me.
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dzba • Senior Fellow member • Posts: 1,651
Re: I'1000 making progress!
Isabel Cutler wrote:
Seem to call up that they come up out to investigate me when I appear on the deck. They fizz around me as if to intimidate me.
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yes you are. I will try to start a thread on my experiences with hummingbird photography next week. Maybe we tin can all share tips, experiences, and images on that thread, too ?
I've noticed when I article of clothing a red hat, the hummers will fizz me, even when there's no feeder in the area. That does get my attention. I've had some brush me when they fly by and I'm sitting in a chair, photographing them. They were beingness chased by another hummer when this happened. At 60 mph I hope none misjudge my location.
Skillful to see you lot're getting responses to this thread. The mountains are calling and I must answer this weekend,
Mike
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Re: Motion sensor trail photographic camera for hummingbird photography?
Isabel Cutler wrote:
is it possible or should I forget nearly it.
I don't spend enough fourth dimension outdoors to get the hummingbirds used to my presence so they take off every time I fifty-fifty barely motion when they're around.
Got the idea to endeavour a move sensor trail cam instead of bothering with setting upwardly a dslr on a tripod with my 300mm lens.
Would appreciate any input you intendance to share.
Isabel
I don't really call up that's necessary. I got this the other day with a lowly span photographic camera:
I think the primary things that you need to exercise are to utilise a fast shutter speed (with burst mode at the highest charge per unit your photographic camera tin can practice) and have your dorsum to the sun so that you go plenty of light on their bodies. I also find that pre-focusing on the flower/feeder they're going to exist at saves some time. This little guy was only visiting for 5-10 seconds at a time about every 15 minutes, so he didn't give me much time to focus on him. I pretty much had to do the pre-focus thing in order to have enough time to get some adept shots off.
I don't know how heavy your photographic camera is, only if you lot tin can go handheld, I would. You should be using a fast enough shutter speed that yous don't need a tripod to eliminate camera shake, and you tin can aim it faster that fashion (at least, I tin can. Inexpensive tripod here.)
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It'south amazing how fast they are getting used to me at present that I'1000 making certain to go out onto the deck several times a day.
Taken just about 6 feet from the feeder with my GX7 and 35-100 lens. Camera in silent manner.
"Liftoff"
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if yous don't click on "View Original" after you click on the picture below, you lot are not seeing the original image quality - it's seriously degraded before you do that.
Isabel
Isabel Cutler wrote:
It's amazing how fast they are getting used to me now that I'm making sure to exit onto the deck several times a day.
Taken only about half dozen feet from the feeder with my GX7 and 35-100 lens. Photographic camera in silent mode.
"Liftoff"
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kramp • Senior Member • Posts: 2,647
Trail cams are likewise slow.
By the time it wakes up and takes the moving-picture show the bird volition be gone.
Remote triggers don't work well because of the need to focus on the eye of the bird.
Yous tin can utilize high speed triggers with sensors similar the cameraaxe and a sonar sensor or laser, just line it up with flower or feeder spout and you lot can become a decent amount in focus equally long as your camera doesn't accept too much shutter lag.
Hummingbirds don't like fast movement, swinging your camera up is enough to become them to fly away, a tripod keeps the camera in position but you need to keep your hands upward well-nigh the camera or that will scare them off when you enhance your hands to accept the film.
They will tolerate you within a certain distance but moving back a foot tin make a big departure but the big thing is to not move, I take them coming with in a couple feet all the time, too close to take a movie but I am not moving so they will feed on the flowers shut to me.
The well-nigh important thing is to go the focus bespeak on the eye of the bird and hit the burst, exercise so you lot can do that, you don't need fast shutter speeds or lots of light only acquire to track the hummingbird through the flowers and get the focus lock in the right spot.
That'south what I do.



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Re: Great shots!....
Don't I know that even lifting the camera to your middle scares them off!
I have set the camera up on a tripod and information technology does help. Tried to trigger it yesterday from my iPad but I couldn't focus remotely from it.
I make more progress every day, just by being out there, but yesterday my visits were cut short past a persistent big, loud and intimidating hovering insect that looked like a huge bee or wasp.
I was able to get a shot of it with my 35-100 lens and cropped a tiny bit of information technology then I could hopefully place it. Turned out it was a yellowish jacket hoverfly - a non-stinging creature that likes to give people A"what for" by hovering near them and non moving.
Ingather from the above image
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Re: Trail cams are besides dull.
kramp wrote:
By the time it wakes up and takes the film the bird volition be gone.
Remote triggers don't work well because of the need to focus on the eye of the bird.
You can utilize high speed triggers with sensors like the cameraaxe and a sonar sensor or laser, but line it upward with flower or feeder spout and you tin can get a decent amount in focus every bit long as your camera doesn't take too much shutter lag.
Hummingbirds don't like fast movement, swinging your camera upwards is enough to get them to fly abroad, a tripod keeps the photographic camera in position but you need to go on your hands upwardly most the camera or that will scare them off when you raise your hands to have the picture show.
They will tolerate you within a certain distance just moving dorsum a foot can brand a big difference just the large matter is to non move, I accept them coming with in a couple anxiety all the fourth dimension, too shut to take a picture but I am not moving so they volition feed on the flowers close to me.
The most important thing is to get the focus bespeak on the eye of the bird and hit the burst, practice then you can do that, you don't need fast shutter speeds or lots of light just learn to rails the hummingbird through the flowers and get the focus lock in the correct spot.
That's what I do.
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This one I used an automatic trigger.
These are spectacular! Practice yous tend to use a tripod or handheld to track them?
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kramp • Senior Fellow member • Posts: ii,647
Re: Keen shots!....
Similar annihilation there is a learning bend and just getting out and shooting and practicing is all that's needed.
Hoverflies are nice to have around the garden, there larva'south are voracious aphid eaters.
Cheers! Hither are some more.
There are many ways to calorie-free hummingbird pictures I do the flash setups once in a while though I enjoy just getting them on the flowers in natural light the most, but to maximize depth of field and freezing the action flash works best.


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kramp • Senior Member • Posts: ii,647
Re: Trail cams are too wearisome.
Landscapeforfun wrote:
These are spectacular! Do yous tend to utilize a tripod or handheld to track them?
I tend to utilise a tripod since my lens is big and heavy, either manner works.
Thanks.
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photog01 • Contributing Fellow member • Posts: 793
Re: Motion sensor trail camera for hummingbird photography?
Well, as is ofttimes true, I am a day late and a dollar shot for this forum.
I take had ii shooting sessions this yr. The get-go was at the dorsum of my house in Michigan. The second was at a casita I was renting in New United mexican states.
At my house my set-upwardly was my 7DII on a tripod with 70-300 lens prefocused six inches in forepart of my feeder. I was able to sit at my desk-bound and fire the camera with a remote wireless trigger.
The 2nd fix-up was hand held using motorcar-focus. I was sitting "quietly" about eight feet from the feeder.
I average about 1 keeper for ever three shots.
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Bobby49 • Senior Member • Posts: two,533
Re: Motion sensor trail camera for hummingbird photography?
I suppose that anything is possible, merely I don't recall that an automatic sensing trail photographic camera would be the best tool for the job. I have ane, and information technology is more optimized for medium to large size mammals. I'thou sure that if a bird got close, it would work, merely the fourth dimension delay might exist a big problem.
Re: Motion sensor trail photographic camera for hummingbird photography?
I ran across this article a while back and establish it interesting. I haven't tried information technology myself but would similar to some 24-hour interval. Maybe yous will detect it useful.
http://world wide web.naturescapes.net/articles/techniques/capture-the-incredible-using-the-photo-trap-and-loftier-speed-flash/
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